In a wide-ranging and very provocative dialogue with Helga Zepp-LaRouche, she opened by commenting that if Joe Biden is truly committed to "unity", as he said in his Inauguration Address, he should adopt Pope Paul VI's encyclical, "Development Is the New Name of Peace", as his policy. This would require dropping "identity politics" and the Green New Deal -- which he shows no sign of doing -- in favor of the LaRouche movement's plan to create 1.5 billion productive jobs, including developing a modern health system in every nation to address the COVID pandemic.